We saw, with the assistance of Mr. Drouin and Ms. Khalid, their running interference to protect the minister from answering questions. The first time he appeared before this committee, he did not really answer any questions that were put to him. So blatant and so consistent was his obstruction throughout that hearing that we had a very long debate in which former Liberal minister Bains came close to being found in contempt by this committee.
Now, in the end, after the Liberals filibustered for hours and hours and hours, taking us until, I think, 9:00 or 9:30 to protect former Liberal minister Bains, we agreed to allow him an opportunity to come back. He came back. He continued, in many instances, to not answer questions. In other instances, he gave testimony that contradicted what this committee had heard from other witnesses.