However, you committed, as you said was your standard practice, to helping them, and then suddenly, over the next couple of months, they shockingly got money from the ISED department—SDTC reported to that minister—and got money from ACOA, which also falls under the industry department.
In my view, it actually was a pretty good bailout to get free business development and government grant money for an entity that was set up by the chair, which then went and got more money than it was seeking from SDTC in the next few months from other departments.
Did SDTC charge the Verschuren Centre for any of those services?