These groups across the whole breadth of government have been billing for services not provided. Every department is just cutting cheques without verifying that work has been done, which taxpayers have paid for. If we did not have this arrive scam issue come before us, we'd be sitting here right now, unaware.
Let me just finish up quickly. I have heard from CFOs who have approached me, saying that this is endemic through government. Large contracting companies and management consultants are billing departments for the same work three times.
It seems to be widely known in the government that this is going on. How is this possible?