Madame Poulin, the collective jaws of all concerned taxpayers hit the floor in your response to my colleague, Mr. McCauley, about the Government of Canada working with fraudsters to pay back what in my view are illegally obtained taxpayer funds. I'm going to do a deeper dive on this.
How did you distinguish between working with potential fraudsters and those individuals whom you referred directly to the RCMP? What was the metric by which you determined you would work with them on a civil basis versus a criminal basis?