To follow up on that, I think you're right that the buck has to stop somewhere. If someone's putting their name to something and ultimately approving something, certainly, there is responsibility.
When it comes to the potential for intentional deceit here, when you have individuals who are potentially taking kickbacks and potentially framing a requisition to cater to a particular vendor, that may.... In this case, we have Cameron MacDonald and Antonio Utano on the one hand, where there does appear to be a closer relationship with Kristian Firth and GC Strategies.
What can you say about that?