I wasn't sure exactly what Mr. Perkins was asking about Mr. Noseworthy, but I did, I believe, have a trusted relationship with him. I did speak to him regularly.
As I tried to explain earlier, our focus was on performance and policy and alignment related to SDTC. It was one of 12 departments that offered clean-tech programs, so this is what we focused on.
In terms of conflict of interest and the financial audit types of issues, what I mentioned is that it's a very delicate relationship between a department and an agency that is independent. As Auditor General reports have demonstrated, there is a requirement that the CEO, the executive and the board are the ones that lead in terms of conflict of interest and the eligibility criteria of contribution agreements.
I think that's the way Mr. Noseworthy thought about the job—but again, I would encourage you to clarify that. It was about policy, alignment and performance.