No, I'm not refuting your findings, but what I'm telling you is that what I knew in 2019, and prior to that, was what is contained in the AG's report of 2017 and in the evaluation report. On governance, again, there was a clean bill of health. There was reference, I think, in the evaluation report to improving the note-taking around conflict of interest and informing ISED. I think I was aware of that.
In terms of the issues about the agreements actually meeting the eligibility requirement, I think it's important that members understand that the work that was being done for some years, including before it came to ISED, around performance measures.... You need to have strong performance measures, especially from a longer-term perspective, in terms of measuring emission reductions. These are key to eligibility requirements.