I should say that there are conflicts of interest, in my experience, in many places in departments, agencies and appointments. I would have seen that there were appointments where there were conflicts of interest. The issue is whether they are being addressed and mitigated.
In the case of Ms. Verschuren, what I understood was that she had reached out to the Ethics Commissioner and had guidance. I expected that the work between her and the Ethics Commissioner would have continued. I think that kind of process is the same for any appointment.