Okay. However, one would assume that this independence is so that the government doesn't interfere in the not-for-profit. If you had somebody sitting ex officio on the board, that information is supposed to go up. Is that correct? The interference isn't supposed to go down, but the information is supposed to go up. Was that not the role of Andrew Noseworthy at the time, to relate it to you as the deputy minister?
On November 18th, 2024. See this statement in context.