I'll try another way.
By her own admission in this committee, Andrée-Lise Méthot had four companies, while you were deputy minister, that got funded while she was on the board. She was appointed in 2016. The total for the four companies is $21 million.
Do you believe, whether they go in or out of the room, that when a board member receives $21 million from the foundation she's on the board of, appointed by the government, it's a personal benefit to her when the values of those companies go up as a result of that government investment? Is that not a breach of the act?