Does the department have no responsibility for a billion dollars of taxpayer money that he was sitting and watching these directors funnel to companies—$390 million—that they own? I've worked in government. I don't believe for a second that the deputy minister was so detached from what was going on. You had a direct report and you had asked him to tell you what was going on, yet the person never told you and you never told the minister. It's not believable.
