That wasn't my question. You chaired an organization that used its staff to find other government money when it was conflicted. You couldn't get money out of the thing that you chaired, the green slush fund, so you used the staff to find money from other government departments, who then ended up giving the Verschuren Centre not $6.8 million but $11 million. To me, that's a total abuse of your position.
That's just for MP Erskine-Smith's information. He doesn't seem to think that's a problem.
The Verschuren Centre then invested—