Let me ask you, he stated that you met often and that you were his eyes and ears on the board. Did you bring up the issue of the conflicts with him at all? You obviously worked together a long time. You met many times together. The whole public service operates under the basic and guiding principle of risk-aversion and CYA, and you know what the A stands for—basically, it's cover your backside.
Did you bring up these conflict issues with the deputy minister?