Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll reflect on my language.
I think the point is made here that, according to the witness, Mr. McConnachie, in his true words, the minister is going to literally flip out—flip his head or flip out—and he probably did. He probably screamed and said—I'm not going to use the word again—“What is going on? How did this happen? Where was the oversight?”
We had Mr.... What was his name, the first guy?