Here we have a minister who, like all of his predecessors, claims he knew nothing. He claims he knew nothing as the Prime Minister's hand-picked directors were put on this board, then went and funnelled money to their own companies.
Now, I know there are members around this table who question the issue of Minister Guilbeault's involvement. They say, “Why would we ever want to have Minister Guilbeault's involvement in this?” Come on, guys. I don't know whether you've been listening, but the ethics reports we all file require disclosure, even by ministers. This minister's ethics disclosures.... Anything over $10,000 in value—not $10,000, but over $10,000—has to be listed on our public declaration. Guess what's over $10,000 and listed on the public declaration of Minister Guilbeault? It's shares in Cycle Capital.
Now, the reason this is important is because we had the founder and CEO of Cycle Capital here, who was Minister Guilbeault's boss for 10 years, before he got elected. That's where he worked. That's why he got the shares. She sat here in this committee with her ignorant lawyer and said, “He owns nothing.” Either Minister Guilbeault was lying on his ethics committee report—which I doubt, because I don't think a member of Parliament ever puts, on their ethics report, that they own shares in something they don't so it can be scrutinized publicly—or Andrée-Lise Méthot was, yet again, lying before this committee by saying, “He owns nothing.”
There is a third option: She's just ignorant about who owns her own company, which I doubt.
We have pushed that. Why does that matter? Well, Cycle Capital, by that SDTC board member's own admission, got $10.7 million that she was aware of, or willing to admit to this committee. Apparently, for Liberals and Andrée-Lise Méthot, $10.7 million of corruption shouldn't warrant scrutiny by the police, and $10.7 million funnelled to your own company is just pocket change for the Liberals, the Prime Minister and their appointees. I don't know. Is it $40 million, $50 million or $100 million? What's the threshold where they say, “Okay, over this level of Liberal corruption we have a problem, but under that we're okay, so fill your pockets”? Apparently, $10,000 or more value in a company that received over $100 million from the green slush fund, whose minister of the Crown, the Minister of Environment sat in cabinet meetings while that cabinet allocated $750 million more of your money to that organization, which was giving the biggest beneficiary of that over $100 million.... It was the company he owned shares in. That company got $17 million more after Minister Guilbeault was put into cabinet while he still owned shares. Those are the reasons why.
I know he's from Quebec and some people don't want that exposed. The fact is that there's corruption, regardless of what province they're from. That company and that person abused their position on the board of the Liberal green slush fund. The minister is one of many beneficiaries of it. That's why he's been hiding. Perhaps that's the reason why 29,000 pages have black ink on them before Parliament.