I'm sorry. I just have limited time.
During this new portion, will Treasury Board consult with PSAC, for example, to avoid this problem?
To rewind here, this is the exact situation that Treasury Board got itself into the first time when we introduced the Phoenix pay system.. Not consulting with workers resulted in a direct impact to workers. We're still trying to clean it up.
To be frank, I don't see those measures helping. This is still a huge amount. It's over 200,000 pay requests. It's not quick enough. You need to hire far more advisers. I'd consider paying damages at this point. These are real concerns.
Would TBS consider working with folks who are actually on the other end of these pay systems in order to get it right? My fear is we're going to have another pilot program that's going to increase these—