That is an ongoing process in the public accounts. The number is about $3.7 billion of overpayments. A lot of that, the majority of that, about $3 billion, is from the employment insurance system, and the emergency measures that were taken there. The remainder, about $700 million, is from the CERB.
All of that is subject to ongoing auditing and verification by both Revenue Canada and the Department of Employment and Social Development with respect to the EI component. Once those things are verified, the usual processes will then set in place between Revenue Canada and individuals who may have received these payments in error.
While I wasn't there at the beginning of these programs, as the member now knows, these programs were designed, because of the importance of speed. They were based on an attestation from the individual who was receiving the benefits. Honestly, based on an attestation system, it's not really surprising that there will be instances of overpayments. How that gets handled...I think those situations have to be handled carefully and sensitively to the circumstances of the individuals. I believe that's the approach that the government will be taking with this.