I think the honest answer would be that it's a bit of a mixed bag. I am pleased to see an increased dialogue and awareness, as I mentioned in my opening remarks, about gender and other identity factors. Dialogue is a great place to start, but it's just the first step.
We see some departments or some programs that use a GBA+ analysis in a really useful way and have modified their delivery. There are other instances where it is almost seen as a requirement, a need to do it in order to get past a certain hurdle. Often we see data gathered, and then the data not used, or the data not gathered. It really is a bit of a hodgepodge. I don't know a better word to describe it.
It's about being a little bit more consistent. When you have a lead organization like Women and Gender Equality that has to summarize how this tool is materializing into concrete outcomes, but they don't have the information or the consistent reporting, they can't then demonstrate the actual outcomes the tool is producing.
Again, it comes back to good reporting and good data to tell people that activity is resulting in an outcome.