I would argue they've been committed to it for eight years. They're still consulting; at year eight they're still doing a consultation on this. Again, what I'm hearing is that you think it's good that we're studying this and talking about this, but you don't have any better confidence today than you did before your report was tabled on the ability....
I'll say this as a constructive, respectful comment. I have never questioned the meaning, the efforts, the well-being or the interest of people or departments in this. It's their ability to actually deliver. Again, I'm not hearing from you resounding confidence to say that the timelines will be met. You believe they're committed, they mean well, but you're still not convinced that they're going to be able to meet the targets and the programs when they're actually needed, particularly as we move out east, for some of those transitions from coal.