Yes, we're seeing some signs of it in the comments from the witnesses today.
The way I would put it is that there are opportunities associated with this shift. There isn't a fixed amount of fossil fuels that we need to source in perpetuity. Those need to come down, and other sources of energy are going to come up. We need to have a new focus, more on what doors are going to be opened in terms of a prosperous future, rather than just on limiting the damage from the doors that are being closed. We need both sides of the coin. When one door closes, several other doors need to open, and we need to focus on both aspects for a just transition.