Right, but I think there was still more travelling going on, on balance, in that period than there was in the previous period. I'm comparing it with the fiscal year that ended in 2021, which would have taken us from essentially the beginning of the pandemic, when everybody stopped travelling and nobody had any idea what was going on, to the year after that.
I also want to mention, before my time runs out, that there was a big increase in professional and special services. There was a substantial increase in overall spending but less spent on employees and more spent on professional and special services. Again, the result of that seems to have been, especially as we've seen coming into this fiscal year, poorer outcomes.
Do you have any explanation as to the big hike in professional and special services alongside the cut in spending on regular employees?