I guess one of the things Valerie Gideon mentioned was that Indigenous Services Canada is working hard towards service transfer, which means first nations running many of the services, programs and operations that we currently undertake.
Gone are the days when ISC will go into communities and deliver programs and services. Those days have gone way past. First nations would not appreciate that whatsoever—first nations that want to move to self-determination and take on control. But they want to be able to take on programs that are working, programs that are funded well and programs that will actually make a difference. The rationale that we should be the sole delivery agent would just not be acceptable.
On that basis, I would say that first nations are actively working with us in all parts of the country to look at taking on services and programs and to look at new funding agreements that offer them more flexibility. I think the work is very slow-moving. Personally, I would love to see things move a lot more quickly, but we move at a pace that is comfortable for first nations, and that's where we're at.