It's a great question.
Under the previous Conservative government, international travel was severely affected. International relationships were severely affected for department officials. That loss of knowledge exchange and best practice, as you point out, is something that I think all ministers would say is fairly profound. We're trying to regain it through re-establishing connections with counterparts through the United Nations and through other...colonial countries, for lack of a better word.
Connecting indigenous women leaders with Maori leaders last summer to do some of that knowledge exchange benefits not just the work of the government, but the work of advocates on the ground.