Mr. Chair, that applies only to the establishment of the cloud framework agreement, where we have eight qualified vendors. We had asked initially when they were qualified—among many things we were validating—what their environmental commitment was and if they had a net-zero commitment towards 2050. We have done that. We have that in the books for seven of the vendors that were qualified at the end. What we don't necessarily have is an attestation, and I think we are working on getting that, so that it's not only a case of “I said”, but we also need to be able to demonstrate the results.
Like the team from the Auditor General looked at, not all the workload and not all the applications that we are putting in the cloud are consuming and having the same demand on the infrastructure. We need to be able to compare this if we do it in the cloud versus running this through an enterprise data centre: Do I consume more energy and do I produce more gas emissions? What will be the difference? This is something that without the addition of the clause in the contract we will not be able to do, and this is where we need to go, because otherwise, if you ask me five years from now if we're consuming less or more and producing less or more if it's in a data centre or in the cloud, I would not have the data and, frankly, if we want to advance towards these targets, we need to have it.
We are really at the beginning here. What is in the cloud is really tiny. A lot of departments are using the cloud right now for experimentation, so it's not major computing that is there. Some departments are more advanced than others, but a lot of the work we do in the cloud is really small. This is going to change in the future, and it's why we need to put these controls in place.