Mr. Chair, to continue on the last question, we have some use cases where we are doing it. There is pathfinder work here around the cloud. There are things we never did that we are doing. We never take a risk with the quality, the security, the privacy—this is always attached—but in terms of the business, we are experimenting to some extent, so it's why starting small is very important, namely, to learn and scale up.
We are working with one of our clients with whom we have a cycle where there is peak time. We are building an infrastructure, and then after a while we have to dismantle it, because it's not needed anymore. We are working with them on what the business will look like next time, because we are going to rely more on the cloud and less on the traditional infrastructure, and we are doing the cost assessment on that.
In the future, we will be able to answer a bit more these kinds of questions about how this would work.
From my perspective, one of the benefits of the cloud is the ability to go fast and to scale up and scale down. It's not the Government of Canada's obligation to decommission.... They installed all of that equipment that has been running there for a year or two. We don't have to buy this. What we are going to pay for is service.
Of course, it's a different model, because we're not going to spend capital; we are going to spend operating...on this. There will be a blip in our spending, but we will not have to invest in the infrastructure and then the installed infrastructure.
There are lots of business cases where this will make sense, but we start at a small scale, learn how it works, find the challenges we have to deal with and adjust. This is the model that paid off. I'm really glad that one of the first pathfinders was the CSE. This is where we learned a lot. This team is highly preoccupied by the security, so it was right to start on the cloud journey with an organization that has so much attention on security, because we needed to learn. We need to feel secure to put anything else in the cloud, so starting with the right use case is very important.