I'll take that. It's Martin Glynn here. I'm the chair.
Yes, we have a very arm's-length relationship with the government, but a very good one. We have a number of mechanisms to make sure that we're on track respecting and understanding their risk appetite. We liaise with the chief actuary and many other parties.
From a point of view of independence, we have our own board of directors. There's an independent nominating committee that nominates new ones, with a search firm that assists. The result is that we have excellent candidates who are all competent and financially expert. It allows for a very high level of governance at the board.
That's essentially how we operate. It's a high-water mark of how boards in the public sector can relate.
We're very pleased with our structure, and with the co-operative and supportive nature of our relationship with TBS and the other ministries.