Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
I also want to continue on something, Mr. Rosenberg, you mentioned previously regarding the relationship the foundation had, during your time there as CEO, and the nature of the government's intentions with China. You mentioned two examples that I think are fair to mention. One was former prime minister Harper's intention to invite pandas as a symbol of goodwill and a growing relationship. You also mentioned, of course, under that same regime of the Conservatives, the purchasing of Canadian oil assets. Those are two examples, especially under the Conservative government, that would of course demonstrate the will of both the Conservatives and the operating government now and their intention to further develop a relationship with China.
You mentioned of course that it was all turned on its head when the two Michaels became a situation. That was of course devastating to Canadians and may in fact have been devastating to many folks within the civil service. From your experience, especially when you were there as president and CEO, you mentioned it was part of the culture, let's say, of the government and that the Trudeau Foundation was participating in that culture of trying to build a relationship with China. You also mentioned in your first round of questioning that when the Trudeau Foundation accepted the donation, it could have hosted a conference on something like Tiananmen Square, for example. That's something you said in the testimony here.
Just in light of that, wouldn't it have been enough for the Chinese, at least for that project, to see that conference take place and then refuse to donate to the Trudeau Foundation in the future? Wouldn't that constitute a kind of jeopardization of the foundation's goals, particularly within the culture at that time?