The clerks are confirming that it is correct, Ms. Sinclair‑Desgagné.
Thank you.
I'd like to welcome five witnesses today.
Anita Biguzs is a retired federal public servant. Graham Flack is currently secretary of the Treasury Board of Canada and a former deputy minister of Canadian Heritage. Daniel Jean is a former deputy minister. John Knubley is joining us by video conference and is a former deputy minister. Morris Rosenberg is a retired deputy minister.
Thank you all for coming.
I believe I'm expecting opening statements from two individuals, Mr. Knubley and Mr. Rosenberg. If others have opening statements, please let me know, and I'll be happy to include you. Please limit your opening remarks to five minutes, although you'll find I'm a flexible chair, so if you do go over, I won't bang the gavel, because I don't like to cut off witnesses.
I'm going to begin with Mr. Knubley for five minutes, please.