Let me not address the last point. On the first point, again, as I said to Madam Sinclair-Desgagné, the objective was to provide reconnaissance and to recognize former prime minister Trudeau, le père. If you're going to be the Pierre Elliott Trudeau Foundation and if why you're doing it is to recognize his contribution, I think it has to have his name on it.
On June 15th, 2023. See this statement in context.