Look, I haven't studied this carefully enough to recommend policy options, but I think there are issues of finance and there are issues of the expatriate community. I agree it goes to Iran and other countries, like Russia. I would look at not just finance. I would look at all the other ways of influencing. We've seen the Confucius Institutes for what they are. We've seen how universities—and my university—have withdrawn from doing research funded by China.
On June 15th, 2023. See this statement in context.