Well, again, should the Auditor General be auditing the five-pin bowling association because it gets a grant from the government as well? I think the answer is no, but I agree with the principle that you should insist that there is an independent auditor, and there is because the law requires it.
In the example I had of IRPP, for instance, I was president. There was a $10-million grant originally. We had taken it up to about $42 million by the time I was president, and we were living off the interest of that. We had an audit committee. The chair of the audit committee was a member of the board, and he was the former governor of the Bank of Canada. Then we had an independent auditor, which happened to be Grant Thornton. I think we changed it in my time and, just in the interest of keeping it fresh, we went to another one of the big audit firms. I think that's the way to make sure it happens.