What I'm getting at is that I understand what you're saying as a percentage, but if we look at the interest in actual dollars, it's double what we will provide to National Defence this year while at the same time we're cutting almost a billion dollars. It's equal to the health care transfers. Percentage is one thing, but you bank dollars and not percentages.
Is this $40 billion or $50 billion we're spending on interest crowding out our ability to provide funding for other priorities?