It's a large question.
Do I think the federal public service will address this? I think there's a lot of goodwill toward this. I've worked on other audits with Deputy Minister Fox, and I believe she's committed to it. We saw the action plan that the department's put forward here. It's committing to starting to gather that data.
My concern is that this commitment came under its EDI plan, and there's been very little activity until now. The deadline is in 2025-26. It's a long time, but that's a place to start. You need to first acknowledge that there are biases and unintended consequences happening in the system. Gather the data to figure out how to break those down.
What I often don't see, and what I didn't see here, was an acknowledgement that this needed to happen. It's in the action plan that was submitted to this committee. It's just a long way out, in my mind. It's a long way for people to continue to wait to see some changes in the process that will hopefully have a concrete impact on discriminatory practices.