Thank you very much.
I think that shows the importance of the balance between the private and public sector.
At the same time, I remember sitting in this committee in 2015-16 looking at the Phoenix report from the Auditor General, which talked about the failings of the Phoenix program at that point.
We heard from the current Leader of the Opposition, who was sitting in that committee—who had been, I believe, the ESDC minister in the previous Harper government—that the firing of 700 public servants, who were experts in the HR systems in their field, was a savings. That was a savings to the implementation of the Phoenix system. That was what we heard then, and of course we see the results today.
I understand that we have continued to work—