Thank you very much.
Ms. Hogan, I'd like to go to you.
I'm going to repeat one paragraph from your report that I think is incredibly important. You mentioned it in the previous round of questions:
Some federal tenants reimburse (or pay rent to) Public Services and Procurement Canada for the office space they occupy, while others follow a different model where the amount of space they occupy has no impact on their budget. Of the 15 tenants cited above who did not agree to the reduction of the space they occupy, 13 (or 87%) had no financial incentives to reduce the space. In total, 93 federal tenants (89%) do not reimburse the department for the space they occupy.
Ms. Hogan, you just mentioned that you yourself—your department—is one of those. How come in the recommendations you made in this report you didn't say that everyone should pay rent for the space they occupy so that they'd be incentivized to reduce space? Of course, if you're philanthropic, as you are.... I see people who will selflessly say “We should reduce space for the benefit of everyone”, but clearly that didn't work with respect to many of the other departments.
Why would we not create a model where everybody pays rent in their budget for the space they occupy?