I think you've raised a few matters on how the public accounts committee can help, and obviously this hearing is a first step in the right direction. I think the one next week, when you will have Public Services and Procurement Canada here, will be important. Public Services and Procurement Canada are the ones who are consolidating this information, driving that and trying to negotiate reductions of space. I think they will be able to play a bigger role, and a lot of these questions can be asked of them.
On the need for data, I couldn't agree with you more. We need it, which is why I think those two fundamental things are essential: what buildings you have available and how they are being used or not used, so that you can decide and reallocate and move. Missing that basic piece of information is key. I don't think leaving it up to every department and agency to track and monitor is working right now. That's why we've issued recommendations to Public Services and Procurement Canada to find a way to standardize and consolidate this, because you need to make well-informed decisions. Without that data, I don't think the decisions will be well informed.