I guess that's why, as my colleague said, they're trying to do more outreach, because it is difficult even for us who are knowledgeable to define the difference. Basically, the RCMP and police agencies are gathering information for evidentiary purposes for criminal prosecutions, whereas CSIS is gathering information that somebody is talking to somebody about something that might have terrorist implications, or that might put us in danger, or put our society in an insecure position. So it's quite different, really, but it's also very general. If somebody believes a crime is taking place, then obviously the police service is where they go. If it's not a crime, but it's a matter of.... You can imagine putting it in the context of 9/11, and people talking about wondering why these folks are taking flying lessons and they're not interested in landing--this kind of thing. It's information out there, and somebody is curious about it and might be able to connect some dots if they put it together with other information that somebody had. That's the kind of thing that gets passed along to CSIS.