In a series of very large failures, I would certainly concede that CSIS did not play the largest role in the failures that took place, by any means. That being said, I was really taken yesterday by the comments by both the director and the former director, and therefore this is leading me to the question I'm going to ask. They said, independently, that they believed they and their department played a zero role, no role whatsoever, in Mr. Arar's deportation and the perception that he was a terrorist.
There are two elements out of that. The first is, do you agree? Do you agree that CSIS played a zero role? Or would you agree with Justice O'Connor that there was a role that was played there?
I know it's a hard question, but it's....