First of all, as it relates to the receipt of information for countries where we have a reasonable suspicion to believe they use practices such as torture, as Mr. Judd testified, one needs to be very careful about that information. And one should be. I would not say one never uses that information, but I would say you shouldn't use that information unless it is corroborated by other sources you believe, where the corroboration comes from information not derived--or you at least have a reasonable suspicion it was not derived--from a product of torture. So I think corroboration is key, if you have a suspicion there is any intelligence or information you've received that came from the product of torture.
In terms of intelligence, I don't think you can have one agency collecting intelligence. In the world in which we live, intelligence is gathered by intelligence-gathering agencies like CSIS, the RCMP, the Department of Transport, the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade, the Department of Immigration, and so on. They all collect information or intelligence of one sort or another. What you need to do is what we did, what the British have done, what the U.S. is now working toward, which is some kind of integrated assessment body where all that intelligence comes together in one place and you have your key analysts from all those departments, senior people, working together. All the information is on the table. It is shared and it is analyzed and then it goes back to the front lines to, I hope, be able to prevent high-risk individuals, for example, entering the country or being able to cause harm or whatever the case. Hence, we created an integrated threat assessment centre to bring all that intelligence together.
Key intelligence-gathering agencies have to have oversight. CSIS has SIRC. We will see what Mr. Justice O'Connor has to say about what should exist for the RCMP. Ultimately, there should be an oversight committee of parliamentarians that can sit on top of all this, in a sense. If you have some concern about how DND is collecting and using intelligence or whether they're not sharing it with our integrated threat assessment centre—