He did want me to mention Stinchcombe today, on the very point that you're discussing in relation to somebody wanting to provide information. Well, the rules of disclosure require that as soon as we get that information from that individual and it is relevant for the defence or the prosecution, it has to be disclosed.
If you can drill down and visualize how a defence lawyer receives a briefing package and the individual he or she is representing is incarcerated, a copy of that briefing package is given to the individual who's incarcerated, and they have nothing else to do for eight hours a day other than to review that briefing package. Contained within that briefing package are the names of the witnesses and the information they've provided in the allegations against the very individuals who are incarcerated. So that creates a real challenge for us.
On the one hand we score points with the witness protection and confidential informant process, and on the other hand, when they find out that this disclosure occurs, they ask the police, “Why are you giving them my statements?” We have to explain to them that we have to give them their statements; it's part of disclosure. The process now is such that defence gives everything, every single piece in the package, to the individuals who are incarcerated.