Let me preface my next question by simply saying that I still believe the police ought to have this non-lethal alternative, if it is non-lethal—and there are increasing questions with respect to that in my own mind, although I haven't come to a conclusion.
I was the attorney general in British Columbia when, for the first time in Canada, the device was introduced by the Victoria police subsequent to a pilot project. I was assured that it was absolutely non-lethal and that it would be used sparingly by the police. I have now come to believe that it's riskier than I was led to believe, and in fact it is not being used as sparingly as it ought to have been used.
The question I have is the same question that someone asked you in Toronto, I believe. This is not to cast aspersions on police officers, but this is a real question that I think the public needs to know. The fact is you admit that you pay police officers every now and then for certain things. I would like to know, how much have you paid in terms of actual money to police officers in Canada, and for what purposes do you pay them? That's a huge issue of conflict. It's the same police officers who then come to us and say they would like to be able to use this device.