Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you to the presenter.
I have a question about research. You say in your paper that there really has not been any kind of qualitative—that was my word—research around the efficacy of the programs, although there must have been reviews, obviously, because you quoted the one, and I did try to wade through all of the minutes that you folks got to hear from people last time.
In terms of there not being any research on the efficacy of the measures, can you talk a bit for me, please, about how you might see that research being done, who you might see carrying out that research, and what the challenges would be in terms of access to information to do that kind of qualitative research? As well, we know that for any kind of qualitative research we do, where one person is in a position of power over the other one, it's very hard to get true information, and there are many examples of that, in which others of us have probably been involved in other parts of our lives.
Perhaps you could please talk a bit about that research: the who, the how, the where, the challenges. It concerns me that while we may do reviews of certain things, there isn't any research about this.