I just felt tired, that was it, for about 10 or 15 minutes. I had a bottle of water and then it was life as normal.
Five seconds felt like you were a little bit tired but not as much, basically. It was probably like you just came up four sets of stairs, not a full workout. It caused some exertion.
Later on, my colleague will talk a bit about the incident management intervention model.
I just want to point out that we do have guidance. Our members are to use the conducted energy weapon when it is appropriate when dealing with clients who display resistant, combative behaviour and when we see that they present the potential to cause death or grievous bodily harm.
I want to get your attention. The conducted energy weapon is not a replacement for firearms. When I talk about death or grievous bodily harm, I'm only talking about isolated situations such as a suicidal person. Two officers show up; a person is suicidal. Yes, there is a potential risk for the person and the officer as well. We never know when the situation will reverse. In some situations it is safe to close the distance, but only with an officer who can provide firearm support so they become one unit. If they can get close enough and it's safe for the officer to intervene with a conducted energy weapon to control the individual, the victim, we may attempt that, but it's not a replacement for lethal force or when we deal with behaviour that could cause death or grievous bodily harm, contrary to what the vendor has been selling and what you hear that “Tasers save lives”.
Have you heard that before? That's often how the Americans use it. They try to replace firearms with a conducted energy weapon, and they put themselves in very vulnerable situations. We don't want our members to do that. We don't teach that. So if I'm dealing with a client who's presenting a knife to me, a conducted energy weapon is not a solution. If I'm dealing with someone who's presenting a crowbar or a baseball bat, someone who can take my life, a conducted energy weapon is not a solution. It's the same with firearms. I just addressed that.
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