Before we do that, I have a question for Mr. Kemball. Maybe you can expand on that.
When we had the Finance Canada officials here, they seemed reluctant to indicate the magnitude of the contraband tobacco. I think you put a number on it in terms of taxes--$1.6 billion per year. I'm sure the Department of Finance has that number as well.
Now, you talked about putting on a first nations tobacco tax as a possibility. They've done that in the United States. But if you have on these first nations reserves organized crime involved, as Mr. Montour has indicated, as well as the RCMP, surely it's not just a question of the jurisdiction of whether there's a tax or where it goes to. When you have organized crime, they're looking at the spread between not paying taxes and the margin they can use to make a lot of money.
First of all, there's some jurisdiction on the legal questions, the constitutional questions around allowing first nations to take control of that tax, but is that going to really deal with the problem? If organized crime is involved, they just want the spread, don't they?