Without the information that convictions would provide, it would be really difficult to pin that down. When we look at some of the volumes that have been stolen, one would have to assume that it is a fairly substantial type of manufacturing concern that would be stealing a large volume of tobacco. There would have to be some fairly sophisticated organization behind that. Moving that kind of volume of tobacco and processing it is not a small endeavour.
On June 9th, 2008. See this statement in context.