Evidence of meeting #38 for Public Safety and National Security in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was know.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Margaret Bloodworth  National Security Advisor to the Prime Minister and Associate Secretary to the Cabinet, Privy Council Office
Rennie Marcoux  Assistant Secretary to the Cabinet, Security and Intelligence, Privy Council Office
Marc Tardif  Director, Security Operations, Privy Council Office

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Assistant Secretary to the Cabinet, Security and Intelligence, Privy Council Office

Rennie Marcoux

I don't think I said that, sir.

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Liberal

Ujjal Dosanjh Liberal Vancouver South, BC

I would like the time to stand still, and if there is—

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Liberal

Marlene Jennings Liberal Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Lachine, QC

What she said was that he didn't say it would impair an investigation.

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Assistant Secretary to the Cabinet, Security and Intelligence, Privy Council Office

Rennie Marcoux

That's what I meant exactly.

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Liberal

Ujjal Dosanjh Liberal Vancouver South, BC

Yes, he did not tell you that it would impair an investigation.

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Assistant Secretary to the Cabinet, Security and Intelligence, Privy Council Office

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Liberal

Ujjal Dosanjh Liberal Vancouver South, BC

What else did he say, though? In terms of the pros and cons, what else did he say?

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Assistant Secretary to the Cabinet, Security and Intelligence, Privy Council Office

Rennie Marcoux

Just what I explained, sir.

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National Security Advisor to the Prime Minister and Associate Secretary to the Cabinet, Privy Council Office

Margaret Bloodworth

I can tell you what the biggest con from my point of view is. The biggest con is that we do not normally talk about background checks at all.

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Liberal

Ujjal Dosanjh Liberal Vancouver South, BC

This wasn't about a background check, madam. I'm sorry, you keep bringing it to the background check. This is about whether or not they raised any concerns with the PCO—

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National Security Advisor to the Prime Minister and Associate Secretary to the Cabinet, Privy Council Office

Margaret Bloodworth

Which they would do through background checks.

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Liberal

Ujjal Dosanjh Liberal Vancouver South, BC

No, they wouldn't. They don't have to only talk to you about background checks. Am I right?

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National Security Advisor to the Prime Minister and Associate Secretary to the Cabinet, Privy Council Office

Margaret Bloodworth

I'm sorry, I was trying to answer your question.

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Liberal

Ujjal Dosanjh Liberal Vancouver South, BC

No, I appreciate that.

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National Security Advisor to the Prime Minister and Associate Secretary to the Cabinet, Privy Council Office

Margaret Bloodworth

If you don't want an answer, that's fine.

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Liberal

Ujjal Dosanjh Liberal Vancouver South, BC

Thank you.

Now, how long did this conversation last?

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Assistant Secretary to the Cabinet, Security and Intelligence, Privy Council Office

Rennie Marcoux

Not very long.

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Liberal

Ujjal Dosanjh Liberal Vancouver South, BC

How long, madam?

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Assistant Secretary to the Cabinet, Security and Intelligence, Privy Council Office

Rennie Marcoux

I would say less than 10 minutes.

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Liberal

Ujjal Dosanjh Liberal Vancouver South, BC

Less than 10 minutes. What you have said could be said in less than actually two minutes. What were the other eight minutes spent on?

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Assistant Secretary to the Cabinet, Security and Intelligence, Privy Council Office

Rennie Marcoux

I said we spoke for less than 10 minutes. I don't recall if it was for two, five, or ten minutes.

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Liberal

Ujjal Dosanjh Liberal Vancouver South, BC

Do you have the notes of that conversation that you made at that time?

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Assistant Secretary to the Cabinet, Security and Intelligence, Privy Council Office

Rennie Marcoux

I don't know if I do.

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Liberal

Ujjal Dosanjh Liberal Vancouver South, BC

Did you make notes?

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Assistant Secretary to the Cabinet, Security and Intelligence, Privy Council Office

Rennie Marcoux

I honestly can't remember.