The difference between any other person and people under security certificates is that when they come to trial, they get to see the evidence, they get to cross-examine the witnesses, they get to challenge the credibility of the witnesses, and in some cases they are acquitted. It's not a foregone conclusion.
I think we have to watch carefully what's going to happen in Toronto. I think you'll be quite surprised to see that at the end of the day, of the 18 accused, a number of them are going to walk away without any convictions or with very minor convictions, and indeed many of the charges will have been dropped against some of the accused.
That's why we have a legal system, to make sure the allegations are proved in a way that establishes the guilt of the person. In this process, what happens is the person who's accused doesn't have any of the normal methods of challenging the credibility of the evidence.
The key point, to go back to your first question, is that SIRC has access to everything CSIS has access to. That's why we think it's important that SIRC has the ability to look at the file to make sure that what goes before the judge with the special advocate is the same as what CSIS has.