Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Thank you to the witnesses. I think I've probably seen all of you on the same topic, maybe going back two Parliaments on the same legislation, but thank you for coming.
I want to pick up on where Mr. MacKenzie left off.
The 19 people have been removed as a result of the security certificate, and you're not aware of them having faced torture or death. In fact, in terms of those 19, it could have been that they didn't make that argument, the PRA assessment, so they might have willingly gone back to their countries. But you haven't actually researched that.
When I look at this list of those people currently detained.... I actually have a list of six. I thought you said five.