I would add that factually you may say we've always had security certificates, and factually the United Kingdom government might say we've had the special immigration appeals commission since post-Chahal, since the European court gave the decision that gave rise to the court. But it's not just the human rights organizations and the minority groups organizations who see a clear difference post-9/11. It is the media, as one member noted, but also the government.
You will take note that Gordon Brown and Tony McNulty, when they came into office, made a very concerted effort to dissociate themselves from Blairist post-9/11 policies. That was for a very specific reason. I believe that Gordon Brown, the party, and his administration recognized the damage that had been done in the race to the bottom with counter-terrorism measures that violate civil liberties and human rights after 9/11. They were trying to re-establish a higher bar.
So it's not just our friends from the Canadian Arab Federation; governments themselves are starting to recognize that we hit a nadir, perhaps, and that some sort of balance should be re-established. This is coming from the one government where this project of a special immigration court that only deals with national security deportations and special advocates arose. This is coming from that government.
I see factually how you would say we've had these for a very long time, but it's not just we who see that 9/11 and the bombings in Spain and in London really did put a different sheen on the whole issue.