I'm an accountant, so we'll compete against each other on the perception credit.
I wondered if any of the panellists would like to comment. Sometimes there's a perception in the media that the person who is being detained--or, it's being argued, who should be detained--on a security certificate has no information about what they're being charged with. I think there's clearly an issue about the amount of information; that's why we're talking about these special advocates and other options. But a Federal Court judge can basically relate information as long as it's not injurious, potentially, to our national security interests and as long as it's not going to lead to injury or death of individuals. That could be anybody. It could be someone out in the field who has infiltrated some organization or something similar.
Just so there's a reality check here, you understand that there's more information than being told you're being charged and that we're sorry we can't tell you anything about it.